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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)  
   
  For your convenience, Total Fire Group has provided answers to frequently asked questions.
 
1. How has the new edition of NFPA 1851 changed requirements for Organizations & Independent Services Providers?
2. Does Total Fire Group offer NFPA 1851 training?
3. Is training available to all Organizations and ISPs?
4. How long is certification valid?
5. Are there prerequisites for Basic Repair and Advanced Garment Repair?
6. What is the difference between Basic and Advanced Garment repairs?
7. Is verified status from a third party lab required for repair of helmets, boots, hoods, gloves, etc)?
8. Who do I contact for third party verification?
9. What is the difference between Routine and Advanced Cleaning?
10. What type of washing machine is recommended for Advanced Cleaning?
11. What type of cleaning agents does Total Fire Group recommend
12. How do I schedule training for 101 & 102 class levels?
13. How do I schedule training for 201 & 202 class levels?
14. How do I schedule training for 301 class level?
15. How do I schedule training for 401 class level?
 
How has the new edition of NFPA 1851 changed requirements for Organizations & Independent Services Providers?
The 2008 edition requires that each manufacturer take a more active role in ensuring that Organizations & Independent Service Providers (ISPs) have had adequate training to properly perform Advanced Cleaning and Advance Inspection of that manufacturer’s products, as well as have the training to perform Basic Repairs and Advanced Garment Repairs in accordance with the manufacturer’s requirements.
 
Does Total Fire Group offer NFPA 1851 training?
Total Fire Group provides no-charge training, and most classes can be arranged at our Dayton facility or in the field. Any travel or lodging expense, however, is the Organization’s and/ or ISP’s responsibility.
 
Is training available to all Organizations and ISPs?
Yes. If you own or service Total Fire Group products, training is available. However, we do reserve the right to withhold training from ISPs when we have concerns about process controls, marketing issues, staff stability, etc. We also reserve the right to withhold certification of individuals that failed to adequately complete course curricula per NFPA 1851 2008 edition requirements.
 
How long is certification valid?
Until a new edition of NFPA 1851 issues (approximately 2013).
 
Are there prerequisites for Basic Repair and Advanced Garment Repair?
Yes. We require some stitching experience for both Basic Repair and Advanced Garment Repair classes. And, per 2008 edition requirements, the Advanced Garment Repair approval can only be provided to Organizations or ISPs that have been verified by a third party laboratory for Advanced Garment Repairs.
 
What is the difference between Basic and Advanced Garment repairs?
Basic Garment Repairs (non-verified) - Essentially minor repair i.e. snap replacement, patching of minor tears, repair of broken stitching, etc.

Advanced Garment repairs (requires verified status) – Essentially any other repair required. We will require ISPs seeking this approval from us to have verified status from a third party lab, and to allow two onsite audits from our staff (one announced and one unannounced) per 12-month period.
 
Is verified status from a third party lab required for repair of helmets, boots, hoods, gloves, etc)?
Only garments has Advanced Repair distinction in the NFPA 1851 standard, so verification is only required for Organizations and ISPs that wish to do Advanced GARMENT repair.
 
Who do I contact for third party verification?
Intertek 1-800-965-3522 or e-mail icenter@intertek.com.

Underwriters Laboratories 1-877-854-3577 or e-mail PPE@us.ul.com.
 
What is the difference between Routine and Advanced Cleaning?
Routine Cleaning is performed by hand only, and does not need to be documented. Routine Cleaning shall be completed following an event that results in soiling or contamination to the element or, as needed.

Advanced Cleaning shall be conducted by members of an Organization or by ISPs who have received documented training from the element manufacturer. Advanced Cleaning shall be performed at least every 12 months and documented.
 
What type of washing machine is recommended for Advanced Cleaning?
Large capacity 50 - 125 pound, front loading, fully programmable washing machine(s).

Water temperature shall not exceed 40°C (105°F).

Extraction g-forces shall not exceed 100 g’s.
 
What type of cleaning agents does Total Fire Group recommend?
All detergents, cleaners, solvents and disinfectants shall have a pH range of 7.0 - 10.0 as stated on the product label or Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS).

Total Fire Group lists cleaning agents that are approved and unapproved for use on our products. Click here.
 
How do I schedule training for 101 & 102 class levels?
Click here for all course listings, descriptions, and an online enrollment form.
 
How do I schedule training for 201 & 202 class levels?
Click here for all course listings, descriptions, and an online enrollment form.

For Organizations or ISPs who desire 201 & 202 level training on any or all elements please do the following before scheduling training:
a) Click here to download Total Fire Group’s SOP, Standard Operating Procedures for the Selection, Care, Maintenance and Retirement of Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting.
b) Consult with your washing machine vendor to ensure that you meet the capacity and 100 g-force requirements, and that water temperature does not exceed 40°C (105°F). We require a letter from your washing machine vendor (on their letterhead) stating your washing machine meets these requirements.
c) Scan all of your cleaning agent Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDSs) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.
d) Scan your Advanced Cleaning SOP (sorted by element) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.
 
How do I schedule training for 301 class level?
Click here for all course listings, descriptions, and an online enrollment form.

If the Organization or ISP who desires 301 level training on any or all elements also performs Advanced Cleaning, please do the following before scheduling training.
a) Click here to download Total Fire Group’s SOP, Standard Operating Procedures for the Selection, Care, Maintenance and Retirement of Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting.
b) Consult with your washing machine vendor to ensure you meet the capacity and 100 g-force requirements, and that water temperature does not exceed 40°C (105°F). We require a letter from your washing machine vendor (on their letterhead) stating your washing machine meets these requirements.
c) Scan all of your cleaning agent Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDSs) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.
d) Scan your Advanced Cleaning SOP (sorted by element) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.
 
How do I schedule training for 401 class level?
Click here for all course listings, descriptions, and an online enrollment form.

For Organizations and / or ISPs who desire 401 level training on garment elements please do the following before scheduling training:
a) Scan your Advanced Garment Repair third party verification certificate and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.

If the Organization or ISP also performs Advanced Cleaning please do the following before scheduling of training.
a) Click here to download Total Fire Group’s SOP, Standard Operating Procedures for the Selection, Care, Maintenance and Retirement of Protective Ensembles for Structural Fire Fighting and Proximity Fire Fighting.
b) Consult with your washing machine vendor to ensure you meet the capacity and 100 g-force requirements, and that water temperature does not exceed 40°C (105°F). We require a letter from your washing machine vendor (on their letterhead) stating your washing machine meets these requirements.
c) Scan all cleaning agent Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDSs) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.
d) Scan your Advanced Cleaning SOP (sorted by element) and email (attach to an email to Brian Marenco), or fax to Brian Marenco at 937-264-2255.

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